Comments on: This Is Not “American Idol”

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:57:30 +0000

Amen! Heinlein got it right!

By: PHP

PHP — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:42:33 +0000

I’m not on any internals list… but I have a lot to talk about
really
what is an internals list?
umm
nothing
list of pecl authors?
never mind

By: Jared White

Jared White — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:11:07 +0000

Good points. I got on the list recently and just posted a message requesting more research in the possibility of including named arguments in PHP6, but I tried to be nice and thoughtful about it. That’s always important!

Here’s an idea. Maybe there should be a separate list where “average folks” can discuss new feature ideas and such, and the core devs can pay minimal attention to it on a daily basis. Instead, when the average folks seem to come to a consensus about some particular new feature or some change in current functionality, it can be brought to the core internals list for a more serious discussion and/or vote by the project leaders. The problem I see is that it’s hard to find an official place to discuss the future innovations of PHP without getting mixed up with the nitty-gritty development stuff.

Just a thought…

By: Jani

Jani — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:31:33 +0000

Lukas, internals is not huge. It’s very, very small room. And the big brother is watching..

Jim, please propose that on internals.

By: jim

jim — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:20:20 +0000

php would likely be well-served in formally adopting the apache voting model, especially if it included a way to cycle some new blood into the ‘php group’ to finally give some long-time contributors the recognition they deserve.

By: Lukas

Lukas — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:26 +0000

The problem is that there seems to be this wierd obession to reply as quickly as possible with half thought out ideas. Final decisions on php6 are not going to be made in the next 3 hours, so whats the rush? Think your ideas through a bit and then mail them off in a well structured manner. Heck maybe talk to some people you know and iron your ideas out a bit. Internals is such a huge forum that half thought out ideas tend to be interpreted as noise because the effort of getting to the actual good part of the idea in the slew of hundereds of half backed idea is just too big.

By: Paul Querna

Paul Querna — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:56:37 +0000

Gee, your opinion sounds just like apache httpd is run….
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#meritocracy
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

See the bits about ‘binding votes’, which require the person be voted in by their peers, before they can make binding votes…. anyways.

By: Jason Sweat

Jason Sweat — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:55:09 +0000

Fear Andrei, the PHP Ninja

I don’t know if you remember, but after the PHP cruise you helped me diagnos a regex problem where there was actually a non-breaking space not being picked up by the \s in the regex. That was the inspiration for my “suggestion” of a namespace identifier.

Hopefully delurking for a joke was somewhat of a respite in that thread.

Keep up the great posts.

Regards,

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:32:38 +0000

A great post/point.

There is certainly room for moderation on php-internals.

Your blog is always a great read.

Keep it up or the ninjas will get even you.