PHP-GTK Book
This morning at work I found a package sitting in my mailbox. From Brazil. I tore off the wrapping and found inside a copy of the very first book about PHP-GTK! Pablo Dall’Oglio, a long time user and a friend, has written PHP-GTK: Criando Aplicações Gráficas com PHP to impart his experience and educate people about this software library that I developed. Rasmus still calls PHP-GTK “bogus”, but I think it’s just been validated a bit more. And PHP had been called “bogus” when it started too, I think.. 
12/04/2004 at 3:49 pm Permalink
I think the simplicity and power gets to people..which is odd. Simplicity and power is good right?
13/04/2004 at 6:49 am Permalink
The problem is, as I see it, that if I make a GTK application in PHP, I need to ship it with PHP or make PHP a dependency of the application – which as an end user, if all I wanted was the functionality of the app, might scare me off a bit. It’s great that PHP wants to be all things to all people, but if I’m thinking of writing a GTK app, I really think that regardless of the simplicity of development, if I want to redistribute it I’m going to use something that doesn’t force the user to do any more work than they have to to make it work. This has been something which has harmed Java on the desktop for a while now, PHP-GTK would be wise to learn from that.
13/04/2004 at 8:40 am Permalink
Ryan, so your suggestion is to always bundle a copy of PHP + Gtk+ in a easy-to-install package?
13/04/2004 at 9:08 am Permalink
Something like that, at the risk of bloating the entire app. Perhaps a better solution though is to provide a second pass compilation and build tool to take the developed product compile it to C, thus maintaining all the flexibility and speed that PHP offers for development, but also offering all of the standardization across platforms that separate compiled binaries would give you. Optimally – you don’t have to package the interpreter at all.
13/04/2004 at 8:58 pm Permalink
Is anybody actually using php-gtk? For what (like which apps)? I figured maybe the web site (gtk.php.net) would have some info, but it was unreachable.
14/04/2004 at 6:05 pm Permalink
gtk.php.net is back up now. You can find the application repository right there.
15/04/2004 at 1:54 am Permalink
So, when’s the grudge match between you and Rasmus?
:p
29/04/2004 at 5:53 am Permalink
PHP-GTK isn’t that used because it doesn’t gives, yet, enough result. UML is betther and cross-platform and you only needs Mozilla (Gecko) to run it.
29/04/2004 at 5:54 am Permalink
Not UML but XUL lol ! Sorry!
29/04/2004 at 5:54 pm Permalink
Sweet!!
Nice to now that Brazil has been the first one, since I am from Brazil as well!
Brazil has a lot of php users indeed, which justify the book
01/05/2004 at 7:39 pm Permalink
Hey, I only just caught up with this
Congrats to Pablo for finishing his book, and Andrei – please roll PHP-GTK 2 _soon_?
05/05/2004 at 7:57 pm Permalink
???? Is anybody actually using php-gtk ????
heck yeah
i built and entire touch screen POS system for
my pizza restaraunt useing php-gtk mysql and slack
and i am also going to use it in my subway sandwich.
shop. i love this stuff. thanks for the time and effort all have put into php-gtk, and i am looking forword to php-gtk2 and php 5. this stuff rocks !!
once again, thanks andrei